Chat transcript from SRM 374
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Handle | Comment |
kclune | slex: Are you back home, or are you still here in the states? |
slex | kclune: I'm back in Poland |
kclune | slex: very good. From what they've told me they are looking for people in Europe, so be sure to ask them where exactly. |
kclune | DB_Clio: Hi Clio, it was a pleasure meeting you last week. |
kclune | DB_Clio: I hope you had a safe and uneventful flight home. |
DB_Clio | Hi Kevin. Good to meet you too. |
DB_Mark | kclune: Clio gets all the good jobs :-) |
kclune | DB_Mark: I bet. :-) |
kclune | DB_Mark: I'm sorry you weren't able to make it, but I think it was very successful, and we appreciate you all being there. |
DB_Clio | Mark - some treats will be arriving soon |
kclune | Welcome to all of the TC members here. Do you have any questions for the Deutsche Bank reps that are here? |
DB_Mark | Cool |
DB_Mark | Kevin - is it true Clio is the TopCoder Poker Champion now? |
DB_Mark | ;-) |
kclune | DB_Mark: that's the rumor. |
Insight | I do. Is DB interested in looking for quants or programmers? |
DB_Clio | Insight: Yes, absolutely |
Insight | Which, |
Insight | I applied to DB and was rejected, |
DB_Clio | Insight: Both |
DB_Clio | Insight: When did you apply? |
Insight | That didn't make an ounce of sense to me, I have a pretty strong physics/cs background. I guessed it might be because my TC rating has plummeted |
Insight | March? |
Insight | No, May or June, I think. |
DB_Clio | Insight: For the graduate training program? |
Insight | No, nonspecifically, via topcoder's applet thing. |
Insight | I just hit a yes button. |
DB_Clio | Insight: When do you graduate? |
nitdgp | DB_Clio: what are the requirements, I mean technologies, a student should know |
Insight | I have an honors degree in CS and physics, and I was in a PHD at Princeton for Plasma Physics |
Insight | I'm on a leave of absence |
Insight | So, I graduated from my BSc in 2005, and my PHD graduation is indeterminate. |
DB_Mark | nitdgp: For the graduate training programme, it is more to do with your degree qualifications |
slex | Hi, where in Europe do you currently have openings? |
DB_Clio | Insight: Very impressive. We'll take another look at your resume and get back to you. |
nitdgp | i was informed through mail that I am rejected |
DB_Mark | nitdgp: Any of the topcoder programming languages (Java, C++, C#, vb.net) would be of interest |
DB_Clio | slex: For the graduate training program, we have positions in Moscow, London and Frankfurt |
nitdgp | what is the basis I might have been rejected? |
DB_Mark | nitdgp: As we're recruiting through topcoder, we're using the topcoder rating as part of the screening process |
slex | DB_Clio: And for professionals? |
nitdgp | DB_Mark: okk |
DB_Clio | slex: Most of our IT jobs are in these locations, but there may be some in other regions |
DB_Mark | nitdgp: If you want to apply the traditional route, you can go to db.com/careers and do it that way |
Hamed | Hi, I just got here.. What level of education are you looking for in new recruits? |
slex | DB_Clio: What would be the recruitment process for a person from Poland? |
nitdgp | DB_Mark: Will it help or I would be rejected as I was rejected through this process? |
DB_Clio | Hamed: For the graduate program, we are looking for people with degrees, either undergrad or graduate. |
Hamed | What is this graduate program? |
DB_Clio | slex: Are you open to working in Moscow, one of our major development centres |
DB_Mark | nitdgp: I don't know if you will be successful or not going that route, but they will take all of your experience into account |
nitdgp | DB_Mark: so are blue's entertained or even high rating is required |
Uranium-235 | When expressing interest in a DB position, how long does it normally take TC to get in touch? |
slex | DB_Clio: I would prefer an English or Polish speaking country |
DB_Mark | nitdgp: Blues are entertained. |
DB_Sergey | Hamed: Graduate program is the training program for graduates out of the university |
DB_Mark | Uranium-235: Have you already applied? |
Uranium-235 | Yes |
DB_Clio | Hamed: It is an 18 month program consisting of six weeks of training in london and two rotations. For more information, you can go to http://www.db.com/careers/en/498.html |
Uranium-235 | I got an automated message a week ago, or so, and never heard anything else. |
elmariachi1414 | How can one apply for graduate training program? |
DB_Mark | Uranium-235: We've had quite a few applicants express an interest, and we are currently working our way through everyone |
Uranium-235 | Oh, OK, well it will probably take a while to work you way down to me :) |
DB_Clio | slex: Have you submitted your resume through TopCoder to us? |
elmariachi1414 | Can you tell about positions available in Moscow? |
DB_Mark | Uranium-235: If your profile has a CV, you will be responded to quicker |
{magneto} | Do u have branches in India ? |
DB_Mark | Uranium-235: :-) |
slex | DB_Clio: I believe I did |
kclune | For all of the TC members, it is a good idea to update your profile with a resume or CV for employment opportunities. |
DB_Clio | elmariachi1414: Submit your resume through TopCoder, as well as through the DB Careers website at http://www.db.com/careers |
{magneto} | DB_Clio: Do u have branches in India ? |
DB_Clio | elmariachi1414: There are various application development positions in Moscow. |
kclune | You can do that here: |
kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=ContractingPreferences |
DB_Mark | (magneto): Hi Magneto |
JongMan | Hello, |
elmariachi1414 | DB_Clio: Thank you |
JongMan | I'm interested about doing internships next summer |
DB_Mark | (magneto): We don't have so many vacancies in India, I'm afraid. |
JongMan | and I'm wondering if there are any (international) positions available |
kclune | Anyone interested in applying to DB should go here: |
kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=tournaments&d2=tccc07&d3=sponsorpatrons&d4=db |
{magneto} | DB_Mark: Hi Mark ! I am from India, and I wanna know if there are any internship oppurtunities available at Deutsche Bank, India |
JongMan | katie told me that you are currently looking for interns too |
DB_Mark | (magneto): Hi Magneto |
{magneto} | DB_Mark: ok, thanx :) |
DB_Mark | (magneto): I will find out for you and double check |
kclune | You will get liniked to the DB careers page, but you will also be put into the TC reporting page. |
DB_Mark | (magneto): Have you expressed an interest in DB via TC? |
DB_Clio | {magneto}: There are no internship positions in India. There may be some limited positions available for the graduate training program. Please visit www.db.com/careers/en/1278.html for more info. |
slex | DB_Clio: I got an automated e-mail reply that "Someone will get back to you with a response shortly" a month ago |
DB_Clio | slex: We are currently reviewing resumes and matching them as positions become available. |
DB_Mark | slex: We're still working our way through the applicants |
DB_Mark | slex: Does your your profile have a Resume attached? |
kclune | If you do not opt into the positions using this link: |
kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=tournaments&d2=tccc07&d3=sponsorpatrons&d4=db |
DB_Clio | JongMan: Yes, we have an internship program in a number of locations. Please visit www.db.com/careers/en/7991.html for more details. |
slex | DB_Mark: Yes it has, I'll make sure it's up to date |
DB_Mark | JongMan: What country are based in, and where are you interested in working? |
kclune | and you go to the DB careers page, please make sure you note that you are a TC member. |
DB_Mark | slex: I will check it tomorrow |
slex | DB_Mark: Cool, thanks |
DB_Mark | To save Kevin's typing, you can also apply via www.topcoder.com/deutschebank |
kclune | DB_Mark: I'm just copying and pasting. :-) |
JongMan | DB_Mark: I'm based in Korea, but I am willing to go to US |
DB_Mark | Does everyone here know what sort of computing problems investment banks have to deal with? |
Hamed | mahdi_a: Hi! |
Hamed | mahdi_a: How are you? :) |
JongMan | No, please explain |
zulo | DB_Mark: I know :) mainly copy-paste from one table to another :) |
DB_Sergey | elmariachi1414: When you start on the graduate program you will be joining the bank as an analyst. There are different roles availible for analysts including technical and non-technical. In your case you would be joining a technical team |
DB_Mark | zulo: :-) |
Leonid | i'm looking for internership anywhere in the EU, do you have available positions or more info about that? |
JongMan | Maybe some kind of hardcore optimized trading systems? |
srik_sama | DB_Mark: I would like to know about it |
DB_Clio | JongMan: It can be difficult to get visas for the US. Are you interested in Hong Kong or London? |
DB_Mark | I have found some links to websites that describe some of the more computing intensive stuff: |
DB_Mark | http://www.ddj.com/article/printableArticle.jhtml; jsessionid=HAHWJHJHP0ZYMQSNDLRSKH0CJUNN2JVN? articleID=197801615&dept_url= /hpc-high-performance-computing/ |
DB_Mark | That's a Dr Dobbs link to an article on Algorithmic Trading |
DB_Mark | You can also find information on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithmic_trading |
DB_Clio | Leonid: We have internship positions in London and Frankfurt. Check db.com/careers for more details on the program. |
Leonid | DB_Clio: ok |
DB_Clio | Leonid: You can apply through the website. |
Mloody2000 | DB_Mark: talking about algorithmic trading, yesterday surge of stocks in late hours was algoritmic ?? :P |
JongMan | Well, provided I don't speak any other language than English and Korean, London might be a good choice |
JongMan | DB_Clio: Well, provided I don't speak any other language than English and Korean, London might be a good choice |
DB_Mark | http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199200297 |
JongMan | DB_Mark: Looks cool, so are there software engineering positions geared towards algorithmic trading and research? |
DB_Mark | JongMan: Apply via the TC website. You need to be in your last but one year of study. |
kclune | JongMan: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=tournaments&d2=tccc07&d3=sponsorpatrons&d4=db |
JongMan | DB_Mark: Next summer, I will have one year left in my school. So I fit right? |
Mloody2000 | DB_Mark: about internship - I'm interested in internship in London (eventually Germany, however I don't speak German), but I can't make one which is not paid. Do DB offer some kind of retribution to their interns ? |
DB_Mark | Mloody2000: We do pay our interns. |
JongMan | kclune: Well, I actually already read that. (The first thing I did) |
DB_Mark | Mloody2000: I don't know how much, bit it is a paid role. I had one working for me this year. |
JongMan | kclune: And there's hardly any information.. |
kclune | other than algorithmic trading, what other opps. do you have in case people don't want to do that? |
riyaaz_shaik | For algo trading positions, how much of an experience is expected? |
DB_Mark | JongMan: Graduates rotate between two departments in their first 18 months |
kclune | JongMan: I know, but you can click on the DB logo at the top, and it will take you to the DB website. |
DB_Mark | JongMan: So we can't guarantee that's what you will always be working on |
JongMan | kclune: ah, never knew that ;) thanks |
Mloody2000 | DB_Mark: Basicly, I just need to know if it's sufficient to survive during the internship :) |
kclune | JongMan: my pleasure. |
DB_Mark | JongMan: However the reason we are recruting via TC is because we recognise that technology is becoming critical to the success of banks |
DB_Mark | JongMan: and we want the best coders |
JongMan | DB_Mark: So there are basically two departments, each geared towards software engineering and algorithmic trading? |
DB_Mark | Mloody2000: I think it would be, yes |
yuri.bedny | DB_Mark: Hello! Do you expect economics (financial markets) background from applicant? |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Mark: hi sir |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Mark: !!! |
DB_Clio | JongMan: There are various departments within our 15,000 employee Group Technology & Operations organisation. |
DB_Mark | JongMan:The IT organisation is split along business lines - FX, Fixed Income (bonds), Equity Derivatives, etc |
Gando19850304 | Will you open internship for the graduates in China in the future? |
DB_Clio | Gando19850304: It is possible but we are not aware that they will be open in 2008 summer. |
DB_Clio | Gando19850304: There should be some in Hong Kong if you are interested. |
AnilKishore | Having knowledge in atleast one of the specified technologies is enough ? |
DB_Mark | yuri.bedny: No, that's not necessary, but if you can show an interest or awareness of banking that will obviously help your applications. |
Mloody2000 | DB_Mark: ok thanks. Looking at UK DB site, I just saw internships for analyst (which I'm also intersted in). I would prefer something about algo trading. Is there such a departement at London ? |
Gando19850304 | I will become a graduate in the year 2008. |
kclune | Is there a particular background you are looking for, or is just plain old CS fine w/ you? |
DB_Mark | Mloody2000: There are several departments that deal with trading systems |
JongMan | DB_Mark: Oh, yeah, makes sense |
DB_Clio | Mloody2000: Inters join several teams, so you would need to specify that you are interested in algo trading during the interview rounds |
DB_Mark | Mloody2000: Some are algorithmic, some are geared to allowing humans (our traders or external clients) to enter trades |
DB_Clio | Mloody2000: there is a large algo trading team in london |
Mloody2000 | DB_Mark: ok, thats perfect |
[Apple] | how about rating can I be accepted for interns? |
JongMan | Mloody2000: Good question, I wanted to ask that too ;) |
abhicool | DB_Clio: Hi, will it help to have some hand-on experience with algo-trading in my process to get associated with DB.. and since I would be graduating in May 2008, what options do I have with DB then... ? |
AnilKishore | Where do you have your branches in India ? |
Mloody2000 | DB_Clio: Could you give a link, beacause I can't find any information about it on recruitement page ? |
DB_Mark | kclune: There isn't a hard and fast rule. If you have a good TC rating we'll assume you know how to program. |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Mark: i will complete my engg from EC branch... in d year 2008....wat r basic qualities do u search ... while recruiting? |
DB_Clio | abhicool: If you had experience it would certainly be in your favour but it is not a requirement. We look for people with the technical, problem solving and analytical abilities. |
DB_Sergey | abhicool: It would certainly be beneficial for you to learn about the trading and finance in general as well as algorithmic trading techniques |
srik_sama | DB_Mark: define 'good TC rating" please |
DB_Clio | Mloody2000: A link on algo trading or the internship program? |
[Apple] | yeah, what about 'good TC rating'? |
kclune | srik_sama: Rating is just part of it. |
DB_Mark | srik_sama: It varies depending on location you're willing to work in. |
Mloody2000 | DB_Clio: internship program in algo departement :) |
kclune | srik_sama: I would include a resume or CV in your profile, and to do that, please go here: |
kclune | srik_sama: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=ContractingPreferences |
DB_Clio | Mloody2000: The internship is a general program and your specific department will be determined when you join. |
yuri.bedny | DB_Sergey: Hello! What kind of algorithmic trading techniques can you advise to be familar with? |
srik_sama | kclune: Thanks. I have dropped a note to you yesterday. |
DB_Sergey | DB_Mark: sure |
Mloody2000 | DB_Clio: Ok thanks. I didn't see anything in France - there's nothing in Paris ? |
kclune | srik_sama: Yup, I got it. I'm just trying to catch up on my work from being at the TCCC last week. |
DB_Sergey | DB_Mark: One of the areas you could work in is Risk |
kclune | srik_sama: I'll be able to get to you later today hopefully. |
Sunny_05 | kclune: hi |
DB_Clio | Mloody2000: We do not have a large technical presence in paris, nor interships i am afraid. |
kclune | Sunny_05: Hello. |
DB_Mark | DB_Sergey: Sergey - can you describe in general terms what the system you code on does? |
Sunny_05 | kclune: i sent u an email regarding the internship oppurtunities |
srik_sama | kclune: Thanks. I was aware that you were busy. :) |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: will DB consider a graduate from electronics branch with coding knowledge and some experience with algorithm trading |
Sunny_05 | kclune: of db |
Sunny_05 | kclune: but u din't reply me? |
kclune | srik_sama: It does get hectic around tournament time. |
srik_sama | DB_Mark: If I need to work in London office what rating you expect? |
DB_Clio | nehabhatt007: Yes, we are looking for people with wide variety of technical knowlege and experience |
srik_sama | DB_Mark: Similarly rating expectations for India office too will be helpful. |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: oh thank you for replying |
yuri.bedny | DB_Mark: I'm not the first on who is asking, but could you please explain how tc rating affects someone's chance to be hired? |
DB_Mark | Your current rating should be fine to be considered. After that it will depend on your CV and interviews. |
Sunny_05 | kclune: hello |
Mloody2000 | DB_Clio: After the recent crisis there was a lot of critics on algo trading. Did it change in some way the organization or the things you work on ? |
kclune | Sunny_05: I'm very sorry. Please ask your questions to the DB reps that are here. |
kclune | Sunny_05: I will respond to your emails as soon as this is done. |
kclune | Sunny_05: I promise. |
DB_Mark | yuri.bedny: Like other organisations, we are using the TopCoder rating as a proxy for coding ability |
Sunny_05 | kclune: i did apply for the internship oppurtunities |
DB_Mark | yuri.bedny: In effect, you get to miss out some of the numerical and other tests we put graduates through |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: I`m pursuing my b-tech from Electronics and Communication branch and i shall be completing it next year 2008 |
Sunny_05 | kclune: n wanna know which site i hav to log on to get further detalis? |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: so what all ratings do you consider from us? |
kclune | Sunny_05: I would log into http://www.db.com/careers/en/index.html |
kclune | Sunny_05: that will help you. |
DB_Sergey | I am currently working on the Risk Management system for commodities products (that means oil/gas/gold etc). It involves calculating various risk measures for the complex trade types and providing traders with tools to manage their risk. |
Sunny_05 | kclune: ok |
kclune | Sunny_05: also, it would help you immensely if you uploaded your resume or CV into your TC profile. |
DB_Mark | DB_Sergey: That's mostly Java, right? |
m4risU | Hello |
kclune | Sunny_05: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=ContractingPreferences |
kclune | Sunny_05: you can do that there. |
m4risU | It is hard to get to you guys today... |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: i have recently joined TC |
kclune | m4risU: There are a lot of people in this chat which is great. |
Mloody2000 | DB_Sergey: Clio seems away so I will ask you :) Did recent critics about algo trading changed your work in some way ? |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: so can you please help me out |
Sunny_05 | kclune: k |
m4risU | Ok, please tell me someone what ppl does DB look for today |
kclune | For those of you just joining us, there are two things we would like for you to do to help yourself out. The first is to upload a resume or CV into your profile by going here: |
kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=ContractingPreferences |
DixonD | test |
DixonD | test |
DB_Clio | nehabhatt007: We are prioritising those with ratings of 1300 and above, so blue, yellow and red |
Mindhunter74 | DixonD: passed |
kclune | the other is to apply to DB by going here: |
kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=tournaments&d2=tccc07&d3=sponsorpatrons&d4=db |
Sunny_05 | kclune: plz do reply to my emails as soon as possible. |
kclune | Sunny_05: I will. |
DB_Sergey | Mloody2000: The algorithmic trading has built in checks and balances to prevent large influences on the market. Also there usually is a trader double checking the algorithms |
DB_Mark | Mloody2000: I don't think that much has changed in regard to algo trading as a concept. The algos might be tweaked though. |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: thank you |
Pelekhan | Help me! |
majuonas | admin: do i need to register to participate in SRM?? |
Pelekhan | I am new god |
DB_Clio | nehabhatt007: you;re welcome |
kclune | majuonas: As always, yes. |
kclune | majuonas: You have 10 mins. to register. |
TheFaxman | majuonas: you need to register for the event using the active contests menu |
majuonas | admin: how do i register ?? |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: May ask your good name? |
TheFaxman | majuonas: active contests->SRM 374->Register |
DB_Clio | nehabhatt007: Clio.. |
mustafij | srabbis: hello |
Mloody2000 | DB_Sergey: you mean double checking transactions or algo itself ? If it's the second one, he's supposed to be an exepert in both markets and algos, right ? |
Mindhunter74 | Pelekhan: hurry plz |
kclune | majuonas: go to active contests at the top of this page, and click on register. |
mustafij | srabbis: are you there? |
srabbis | mustafij: yes |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: oh nice name |
mustafij | srabbis: contest to bhai hobe |
m4risU | kclune: I'm really late today... I was looking for open WIFI and i found none :/ And it seems that topic of working for DB is down :( |
DB_Clio | nehabhatt007: thanks |
srabbis | mustafij: ok thnx vai :) |
mustafij | srabbis: 8 nov 5pm e MOCK |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: can you please give me your email id? |
mustafij | srabbis: 9 Nov contest |
majuonas | admin: thanks |
mustafij | srabbis: :) |
kclune | m4risU: nope, make sure you register, and the EDB people will still be here. |
srabbis | mustafij: :) thnx |
kclune | m4risU: ask any questions you like. |
dzhigarov | anri |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: so i can be in contact with you |
mustafij | srabbis: you are welcome :) |
DB_Mark | nehabhatt007: You can contact us at topcoder@db.com |
dzhigarov | anrieff: veso,6to nqma 4erveni ve :P |
DB_Sergey | Mloody2000: Usually the trader would develop the rules for algorithmic trading, and suggest the various checks and warnings that they would want |
m4risU | kclune: thanks for encouraging |
srabbis | mustafij: apnar der team koita vai? |
kclune | m4risU: my pleasure. |
anrieff | dzhigarov: kak da nqma be |
DB_Sergey | Mloody2000: they would then be monitoring the transactions made by the algorithm |
dzhigarov | anrieff: emi malko |
mustafij | srabbis: last time dekhsilam 3ta |
WalterDDR | go luck everybody |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: thanks for replying me |
mustafij | srabbis: er por ar keu Registration korse naki jani na |
m4risU | What technology does DB seeks today here? |
srabbis | mustafij: hmm |
JongMan | kclune: When I submit my CV or resume, |
mustafij | srabbis: Bhai kun University er? |
JongMan | kclune: should I make it one-page? |
m4risU | And what cities are considered to be workplace |
srabbis | mustafij: vai, apnar ra BAG diben to:D? |
dzhigarov | anrieff: mi super...6tot ima sponsor na tva SRM |
JongMan | kclune: Actually that seemed a little bit too short for me. |
DB_Mark | m4risU: What we're seeking here are good coders :-) |
mustafij | srabbis: ashole BAG er jonno amio SUGGESTION disi |
kclune | JongMan: Doesn't have to be if you have enough experience and projects to extend it. |
mustafij | srabbis: dekhi ekhon CLUB er member ra ki kore |
Mloody2000 | DB_Sergey: ok. And what about the possibilty of Turning off an algo. Do the trader who is monitoring one algo have the possibility to turn it off immediately if something is going wrong ? |
m4risU | DB_Mark: that for sure |
yuri.bedny | DB_Sergey: Do you hire in Saint-Petersburg? |
mustafij | srabbis: ami to ar CLUB e nai :) |
kclune | JongMan: It's not a big deal if it goes into 2 or 3 pages. |
srabbis | mustafij: ashole Daffodil e pai nai to:( |
root85 | Hi all |
m4risU | DB_Mark: what cities do you hire in |
kclune | JongMan: just make it substantive. |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: well i have not yet participated in macthes, i am still working on my algorithm skills and soon shall be participating with bang |
srabbis | mustafij: hmm bujhte parsi |
mustafij | srabbis: hmm |
dzhigarov | anrieff: ooppss... edin zyl doide |
DB_Clio | yuri.bedny: No, our roles are in moscow |
mustafij | srabbis: bhai, apnar university kunta? |
DB_Mark | m4risU: London, Frankfurt, Moscow, New York primarily. |
kclune | For those of you just joing us, DB is hiring TC members, and would like to talk to as many as possible. |
srabbis | mustafij: AUST |
kclune | Please apply here: |
kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=tournaments&d2=tccc07&d3=sponsorpatrons&d4=db |
JongMan | kclune: Okay, I'll feel free ;) Thanks |
mustafij | srabbis: oookk |
m4risU | DB_Mark: Frankfurt sounds nice ;) |
psir | icanadi: su nam stigle pare? |
mustafij | srabbis: apnader team koyta? |
srabbis | mustafij: oook |
DB_Sergey | Mloody2000: Generally the trader should be able to interupt the algorithm |
m4risU | DB_Mark: java developers? |
srabbis | mustafij: only 2ta |
psir | icanadi: su nam stigle pare? |
mustafij | srabbis: hmm |
srabbis | mustafij: sure na akhono korbo kina...iccha nai |
kclune | And please update your profile with a resume or CV by going here: |
kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=ContractingPreferences |
nehabhatt007 | DB_Clio: ok, so when you will be next sponsoring TC? |
mustafij | srabbis: best of luck for today |
mustafij | srabbis: :) |
srabbis | mustafij: you too :) |
yuri.bedny | DB_Sergey: Thanks. Is it possible for someone from Russia to work in EU in your company? |
mustafij | sohelH: Assalamualaikum |
mustafij | sohelH: valo asen? |
m4risU | DB_Mark: do you count TC experience equally as regular jobs? |
sohelH | mustafij: :) eito |
Peterpay | DB_Clio: r u looking for .net developers? msft certifications could be and advantage for applicants?? |
root85 | DB_Clio: I've heard DB is going to open its branch in Russia, in Siberia. Is that true? |
mustafij | sohelH: apnader koyta team ashtese NSU te? |
kclune | yuri.bedny: From what I heard at the TCCC they are looking for TC members in Moscow. |
kclune | yuri.bedny: If that helps. |
DB_Mark | m4risU: We don't count it as work experience, but we do count it as evidence of technical ability. |
Mloody2000 | DB_Sergey: Ok. What about teams, I guess there are several people involved from traders, to programmers, through mathematicians. At average, how many people there are in a team (and how work is divided -> one team one algo, or rather one big team, several |
sohelH | mustafij: 2 ta |
DB_Clio | root85: I am not aware of this. |
tick00 | hejka |
DixonD | test |
m4risU | DB_Mark: bad :/ i live on their assignments |
mustafij | sohelH: hmm |
DixonD | test |
mustafij | sohelH: OK |
mustafij | sohelH: best of luck for SRM |
Mindhunter74 | sohelH: Assalamu Alaikum |
kclune | DixonD: It works. |
zizavino | will we start 6 mins later? |
DB_Sergey | yuri.bedny: We currently have opportunities in Moscow, also we do hire from different locations into London |
DB_Clio | Peterpay: We are looking for applications with a wide range of technical skills. |
sohelH | mustafij: :) |
root85 | DB_Clio: ok. thanks |
m4risU | DB_Mark: but what if i can get you some good reviews from someone from TC staff? |
DB_Mark | m4risU: If you're doing it as a profession, than that would be different. I imagine it would be treated as a series of contract roles. |
kclune | m4risU: can't hurt. |
Mindhunter74 | sohelH: Good luck today ;) |
Peterpay | DB_Clio: ok where r ur devcenters located?? |
psir | paranoia: congrats :) |
DixonD | kclune: I tested me internet connection. It very bad;) |
sohelH | Mindhunter74: same to you |
yuri.bedny | DB_Sergey: Do hiring requrements differ in Moscow and London? |
m4risU | DB_Mark: sounds better :) it is currently my proffesion |
kclune | DixonD: well, do the best you can. |
xiaoze | richardxx:hi |
xiaoze | richardxx: hi |
DB_Clio | Peterpay: Mainly London, Moscow, New York, Frankfurt and Singapore. There are technical positions in other areas. |
paranoia | psir: thanks |
m4risU | DB_Mark: what positions do you hire at? |
srik_sama | DB_Mark: Thanks for answering the questions. |
root85 | scorzh: Hi |
sunmoonstar | go og |
DB_Sergey | Mloody2000: This depends on a team - different areas have different practises |
Peterpay | DB_Clio: where i can check open positions?? |
[Apple] | Singapore is good for me |
DB_Mark | srik_sama: Pleasure :-) |
kclune | For those of you just joining us, DB is working on very cool stuff, and they are actively looking for TC members. Please apply Here |
kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=tournaments&d2=tccc07&d3=sponsorpatrons&d4=db |
DB_Mark | m4risU: How do you mean? Locations? Roles? |
m4risU | DB_Mark: roles |
mustafij | samee.zahur: BEST OF LUCK... |
DB_Sergey | yuri.bedny: It depend |
mustafij | nokia: Best of luck |
rlaiola | room /le |
DB_Mark | m4risU: For professional roles we have lots. Typically analyst programmer roles of varying levels of responsibility |
technonaru | do your best leave the rest |
DB_Clio | Good luck everyone. |
ltdtl | JongMan: -_- btw why Korea is top 10 on algo countries? |
DB_Sergey | yuri.bedny: sorry, It depends , I only know about the graduate program, where the requirements are set globally |
m4risU | DB_Mark: it seems flexible |
ltdtl | JongMan: algo rank by countries... |
kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=tournaments&d2=tccc07&d3=sponsorpatrons&d4=db |
JongMan | ltdtl: I donno |
mani_da1 | good luck everyone :) |
kclune | please apply. |
JongMan | ltdtl: gl hf kkk |
Tym | wie? :P |
kclune | you won't be sorry. |
ltdtl | --' i thought astein's rating decreased.; |
dincalkiller | tired T.T |
JongMan | good luck everybody |
m4risU | DB_Mark: is this possible to work at tokio or anything like that? |
kclune | Good luck everyone in the arena. |
kakaio9 | pgold: Nao |
m4risU | DB_Mark: i always dreamed about this city :D |
kclune | Thank you to the DB folks that took their time to anser our questions. |
Nash_Nash | uhm .. 3 menots |
kclune | answer. |
yuri.bedny | DB_Sergey: Ok. Thanks for answers |
kclune | sorry, fat fingers. |
m4risU | DB_Mark: kclune dont rush them to go!!!!!!! |
DB_Mark | m4risU: It's possible, but probably not as a straight hire |
emka207 | kclune: do you consider applicants with higher rating to have a better chance to be accepted for employment? or do you have any other criteria? |
DB_Mark | m4risU: People do move around internally. |
kclune | emka207: It can't hurt. |
m4risU | DB_Mark: ok |
kclune | emka207: but there are definitely other factors. |
m4risU | DB_Mark: how long does verification can take |
emka207 | kclune: such as? |
kclune | emka207: skills, work history, projects in school, general smarts, ability to learn. |
kclune | emka207: you have a good rating so I wouldn't worry about that. |
DB_Mark | m4risU: Verification? |
m4risU | DB_Mark: if i apply tomorrow/today |
m4risU | DB_Mark: how long it can take? |
m4risU | DB_Mark: i'm living currently in spain packed to go somewhere else |
DB_Mark | m4risU: Our main focus is graduate hires. For professional hires it might take slightly longer. |
DB_Mark | m4risU: If you upload your CV I'll make a note to check it tomorrow. |
DB_Mark | kclune: One other thing we will be looking for is teamworking skills |
m4risU | DB_Mark: and last question i thinkl |
kclune | m4risU: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=ContractingPreferences |
m4risU | DB_Mark: how does verification process looks like |
kclune | m4risU: To upload your resume or CV. |
kclune | Thanks Mark and Clio. |
DB_Mark | m4risU: For an application? Typically we'd pass your CV on to the recruiters for the locations you are willing/eligible to work in. |
m4risU | kclune: I already have it added to links, and filled basics already |
kclune | m4risU: very good. |
DB_Mark | m4risU: They would then share it with hiring managers that had a role that you looked a match for. |
kclune | Thanks Mark and Clio. Very good chat today. |
kclune | Have a great day. |
DB_Clio | Bye everyone. |
DB_Mark | kclune: Thanks, Kevin. And good luck to anyone still left. |
m4risU | thanks all |
DB_Mark | Any more questions, post them in the Topcoder DB Forum or email topcoder@db.com |
DB_Mark | bye |