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Chat transcript from SRM 361
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| Handle | Comment |
| harvey6ft | welcome to the TC Software chat! |
| connect4 | Will there be lots of prize give-a-ways tonight, possibly including a washer and dryer? |
| harvey6ft | This is where you can learn everything you've ever wanted to know but were afraid to ask... |
| ali_raza_shaikh | connect4: :) |
| katie | lol...how did you know? |
| harvey6ft | about being orange! |
| connect4 | katie: I didn't; I just wanted something so I didn't have to run down the street every 30 minutes to add fabric softener |
| ali_raza_shaikh | harvey6ft: is this freelance work oppurtunity |
| ali_raza_shaikh | harvey6ft: you want people that can work from home? |
| katie | connect4: you are just multi-tasking away!! |
| mess | hello everyone |
| connect4 | katie: trying to! :) |
| m4risU | hello Dave ;) |
| connect4 | howdy mess |
| zhaofu(do_ob) | hello oranges |
| harvey6ft | Time to send out the announcement? |
| mess | how are you connect4 |
| connect4 | harvey6ft: nah, we want more individualized attention... no announcement needed! |
| connect4 | mess: not bad, how 'bout yourself? |
| harvey6ft | ha... |
| mess | connect4: same old same old too hot up here for me in the northeast |
| mess | connect4: you still in NJ? |
| mess | m4risU: how are you! |
| zhaofu(do_ob) | do all oranges have fixed work time? |
| connect4 | mess: officially over the border in PA now, but pretty close to there |
| connect4 | mess: (good memory!) |
| mess | duner: good to see you |
| m4risU | mess: just taking break from work ;) |
| connect4 | mess: and yes, almost as bad down here |
| m4risU | mess: really good, thanks for asking |
| mess | connect4: i worked for TopCoder client in the poconos and used to live down in philly for awhile |
| connect4 | mess: then you would know all about this area then :) |
| mess | connect4: are you working now or still in school? |
| connect4 | mess: hypothetically one year of school left, then have to hit the employment line |
| mess | connect4: cool, enjoy college while you can! |
| harvey6ft | So... What do you guys know about TC Software? |
| mess | connect4: everone says that |
| kclune | Hi everyone. Now is your chance to ask questions to TopCoder Employees, and admins about TopCoder Sotware. |
| mess | connect4: but it is true |
| lidaobing | frankly said, I prefer red or target to orange |
| bugzpodder | but if people work for topcoder, then they can no longer compete! ?? |
| bugzpodder | such a pity |
| kclune | Software, sorry. |
| Otaku | Why "go orange"? Is it that easy to become orange?? |
| ziliang | what kind of job is provided? |
| mess | ziliang: we are looking for software architect |
| mess | ziliang: mostly |
| bugzpodder | Otaku: tc employees are orange |
| mess | ziliang: to decompose system into components |
| connect4 | mess: I'm trying to enjoy it... for some reason, this grad school stuff stinks though :) |
| ikomarenko | what is TopCoder Software? |
| CrazyBird | ziliang: Orz??!! |
| MB__ | does he fact you're orange implies that you can't start in algorithm matches and/or CD&D? |
| mess | ziliang: and work with the memberbase to get it completed occassionally we look for other work as well |
| mess | MB__: yep no competitions |
| lidaobing | mess: any other job? |
| mess | MB__: which is good for me, since you guys would kill me |
| harvey6ft | topcoder software = http://software.topcoder.com/applications/index.jsp |
| MB__ | mess: :) |
| connect4 | mess: no competitions: the one downside to being an admin :( |
| mess | connect4: yep |
| zhaofu(do_ob) | does TC require fixed working time for its employees ? |
| vexorian | no competitions, at all? Not even non-money matches? |
| mess | zhaofu(do_ob): not usually project by project |
| mess | zhaofu(do_ob): it is more deliverable based |
| mess | vexorian: yes all admins cannot compete because it would influe ratings |
| katie | zhaofu(do_ob): hello. where are you located? |
| ikomarenko | mess: is a competition or a permanent development position? |
| harvey6ft | It's a full time, internal position |
| zhaofu(do_ob) | katie: Brazil |
| connect4 | mess: now that we've done personal chat stuff, I assume that I should ask a "useful" couple of questions. Is location a factor for this position, or can we work from the arctic circle if we so desired? |
| Otaku | bugzpodder: isn't the same color as people rated 1600-2200 |
| felix_halim | mess: why can't admin have rating? |
| harvey6ft | 70% working remotely, 30% working on the client site |
| bugzpodder | Otaku: nope, thats yellow |
| bugzpodder | Otaku: you can see the orange ones here |
| CrazyBird | bugzpodder: 2200 is red 1500-2199 is yellow |
| bugzpodder | Otaku: harvey6ft is orrange for example |
| mess | MB__: yep |
| harvey6ft | you can work from anywhere where you have phone and inet (in the U.S.) |
| katie | zhaofu(do_ob): ok...at this time we are focusing on US based architects |
| mess | ikomarenko: depends on where you live |
| bugzpodder | harvey6ft: .. wow! a WFH position?!?! |
| connect4 | harvey6ft: nice! what forms of benefits are available, and what coding knowledge is required? |
| zhaofu(do_ob) | katie: ok |
| kclune | connect4: international employees work from home exclusively. |
| Otaku | bugzpodder: Well i checked in photoshop, both are #DDCC00 |
| mess | ikomarenko: right now we can't hire outside the US and some spots and china and eventually argentina |
| bugzpodder | Otaku: are you using 256 color monitor? |
| mess | ikomarenko: we are looking for contractors for the time being |
| mess | ikomarenko: outside the US |
| connect4 | kclune: so if I quickly move out of country, I don't have to go onsite? |
| kclune | connect4: US/Canadian/Mexican employees will travel about 30%. |
| harvey6ft | connect4: full benegfits, medical, 401k, vacation, holidays, great pay... |
| kclune | connect4: yes, but we won't pay for your move :-) |
| mess | zhaofu(do_ob): you have already done some architecture tasks ;-) |
| connect4 | kclune: d'oh! :( (I had to try, right? :) |
| Otaku | bugzpodder: My bad : admins are #FF9900 |
| katie | connect4: now, don't get us all excited. you are not out of school for at least a few years right? |
| kclune | connect4: It is worth a shot.... |
| zhaofu(do_ob) | mess: yes |
| harvey6ft | connect4: you must compete at least once in a TC design comp. |
| connect4 | katie: <=1 year til I'm done :) |
| zhaofu(do_ob) | mess: still doing it :) |
| mess | zhaofu(do_ob): :-) |
| connect4 | harvey6ft: oh is that a requirement? :( |
| Uranium-235 | Working for TC means you can't compete in SRMs anymore, right? |
| katie | connect4: ahh...i will make a note then |
| harvey6ft | connect4: and do well (you don't have to win...) |
| harvey6ft | connect4: yep |
| connect4 | harvey6ft: well that makes it slightly harder then! |
| AdamSelene | Uranium-235: correct |
| harvey6ft | connect4: having some real world architect experience helps, but... if you compete and do well it goes a long way |
| kclune | mess: What are you looking for in a candidate for TC Software? |
| mess | just so guys know we also have a referall bonus of 5,000 for US architect hires! |
| harvey6ft | bugzpodder: yep, work from home most of the time |
| mess | MB__: yes definitely |
| Otaku | bugzpodder: Honest answer please : from what rating are you hiring? |
| harvey6ft | That's $5000.00 U.S. Dollars! |
| harvey6ft | in design? |
| connect4 | harvey6ft: so I'm assuming this is primarily Java/C# (based on the little I know about components)? |
| bugzpodder | Otaku: I am not a admin |
| mess | kclune: we are looking for people who like to solve interesting problems and disect applications into components |
| bugzpodder | Otaku: ask the admins |
| harvey6ft | connect4: yep, mostly... but some c+ also |
| mess | kclune: we deal with Java/C++/C# |
| katie | even if you are outside of the US and refer an architect to work here in the US, that is still 5k for you! |
| Rustyoldman | Not that it matters for this position but, could a person from California survive the weather at TopCoder HQ? |
| connect4 | Rustyoldman: you like snow? :) |
| mess | Rustyoldman: the position is work from home and travel to a client 30% of the time |
| kclune | anyone interested in applying to TC, or referring someone to TC should use this link: |
| kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| harvey6ft | Otaku: we look at design mostly... and if you have no real world experience you need a higher rating.. say over 1100, if you have real world experience we'll consider a lower ranking |
| katie | Rustyoldman: i thought you were "married" to california |
| katie | Rustyoldman: ? |
| Otaku | harvey6ft: thanks |
| Rustyoldman | I am for about nine more years |
| mess | MB__: nope that is fine |
| Ryan | Rustyoldman: theoretically, yes |
| connect4 | Rustyoldman: you're getting divorced when you're 160? |
| harvey6ft | another nice thing about working internally for TC software... |
| harvey6ft | Free T-shirts! |
| Rustyoldman | Maybe I will move to the Turks and Caicos Islands for good |
| harvey6ft | and... |
| kclune | We are also looking for Project Managers, and Information Architects/Graphic Designers in case anyone was wondering. |
| m4risU | wow, you dont have to do laundry! |
| vlad_D | mess: what are the advantages of having good rating at algo competition for employment opp. ?? |
| harvey6ft | working for the most innovative software company in the world! |
| Rustyoldman | Google? |
| connect4 | harvey6ft: but as m4risU asked, do you have to do your own laundry? |
| Ryan | So the positions at TopCoder have nothing to do with the Algorithm Competition? |
| AdamSelene | oh snap |
| vlad_D | kclune: Graphic designer? |
| mess | vlad_D: i think it definitelly helps |
| connect4 | Rustyoldman: nice one |
| mess | vlad_D: it shows alot of aptitude and love of coding |
| harvey6ft | AdamSelene: if you do well in algo, it helps |
| kclune | Rustyoldman: Google isn't doing what we're doing. |
| vlad_D | mess: aha :) |
| harvey6ft | AdamSelene: especially if you have architect experience |
| AdamSelene | luckily for me I do |
| gniuxiao | is it a part time job or full time job? |
| vlad_D | mess: does TC offer part-time jobs too? |
| mess | vlad_D: definitely |
| m4risU | connect4: if they give free T-shirts ;) |
| harvey6ft | connect4: only on the first tuesday of the week, every other tuesday the the company will do it for you. |
| kclune | gniuxiao: Full time, but depending on yor circumstances, we might entertain a part time gig. |
| kclune | gniuxiao: such as a summer internship. |
| SweetStrings | Actually if you apply online in Google one of the questions is whether you have a TopCoder rating or not |
| harvey6ft | gniuxiao: full time |
| kclune | gniuxiao: but those are few and far between. |
| kclune | gniuxiao: just do you know. |
| UFP2161 | harvey6ft: first tuesday of the week? doesn't that mean every tuesday? |
| harvey6ft | UFP2161: ;) |
| vlad_D | mess: what are the available part-time jobs at TC...? |
| Rustyoldman | UFP2161: except for leap weeks |
| tanatos | hi, i don't even know what an architect does, can you tell some examples of problems that an architect faces at TC? |
| mess | vlad_D: on algos there are testing and problem writing |
| mess | vlad_D: we have small architecture work that needs to be done now |
| mess | vlad_D: for instance i need someone right now |
| gniuxiao | does that mean I have to resign my current job? |
| gniuxiao | if I'm hired by TC |
| harvey6ft | gniuxiao: if you work full time for TC Software, yes |
| AdamSelene | tanatos: We work from application requirements specifications... |
| harvey6ft | gniuxiao: but... It's better at TC! |
| mess | vlad_D: i have a need for a contractor to come up with a set of components to do code formatting that we can use in the arena |
| mess | vlad_D: we'll launch all the competitions through the process but it is a good chance to effect the arena and earn some money |
| AdamSelene | tanatos: and break down the requirements into functional areas, build component specs |
| AdamSelene | tanatos: and develop the high level, system architecture for the application |
| AdamSelene | tanatos: this involves developing UML and written documentation much like component design process |
| harvey6ft | if you'd like to learn more... one on one with one of the TC Recruiters be sure to go here and opt in: http://software.topcoder.com/applications/index.jsp |
| AdamSelene | tanatos: after developing this design, you are responsible for overseeing the component production, and technical aspects of assembly and deployment |
| MB__ | mess: do you need a whole design of such set of components to be done with some general specification? |
| mess | vlad_D: nope just enought to figure out how the components work together and right the requirements to post for competitions |
| kclune | AdamSelene: How is the component design process similar and different in regards to the Software Architect position at TC? |
| mess | vlad_D: and you'll answer the questions in the forums like a normal design process |
| Eeyore | How many employees do you have at the TC head office now? |
| harvey6ft | TC Software builds enterprize wide software systems for large companies |
| harvey6ft | big time stuff... |
| AdamSelene | kclune: in terms of deliverables it is very similar - you are responsible for key interfaces, sequences and descriptions of the major concerns of an application - |
| tanatos | AdamSelene: ok, someday i will try Component Design |
| AdamSelene | kclune: threading, configuration, deployment, etc. |
| SweetStrings | Does TC have tutorials on component design? |
| harvey6ft | and... we don't do support or maintanence projects... only new component based development |
| gniuxiao | Anyone just need follow the link mentioned above to apply, right? |
| connect4 | Speaking of the TC headquarters, that reminds me of another important topic: how good are your foosball skills, and how often do you play? |
| katie | connect4: i got MAD foosball skills |
| vlad_D | mess: aha |
| vlad_D | mess: thank you! :) |
| mess | connect4: greatly improved but still bad |
| harvey6ft | gniuxiao: yep, that's right |
| AdamSelene | kclune: it is different in terms of design goals - you are looking at things from a much higher level than component design - while you may be concerned about how the application manages resources concurrently, you are not concerned about what |
| harvey6ft | gniuxiao: http://software.topcoder.com/applications/index.jsp |
| AdamSelene | kclune: locking mechanism is used |
| mess | Eeyore: in the office 20-25 |
| katie | and Eeyore...we have about 130 |
| mess | Eeyore: company wide probably about 120 or so most work from home or at clients |
| gniuxiao | Fine, thanks. |
| mess | Eeyore: katie probably knows better than me :-) |
| katie | :) |
| Eeyore | Excellent. I like to work in my pyjamas. |
| Eeyore | Although it may raise some client eyebrows. |
| katie | Eeyore: i imagine it would |
| katie | Eeyore: :) |
| connect4 | Eeyore: Good! I would've been scared if you preferred working in my pajamas... |
| IvayloS | hi i just tuned in and i want to ask if there is an oppurtnunity to work from home for top coder |
| kclune | Eeyore: we really ask that you don't wear your PJ's at the client site. |
| Rustyoldman | Eeyore: better than no pjs. |
| katie | Rustyoldman: indeed |
| harvey6ft | IvayloS: yes, 70% from home |
| kclune | IvayloS: It depends what you want to do. |
| harvey6ft | IvayloS: as an Architect |
| IvayloS | well, what there is to do? |
| connect4 | IvayloS: you can play sports, and occasionally write code, and probably go to lots of meetings. |
| Eeyore | So is design and development the only line of work you're doing now? What about related stuff like technical writing, web layout, and so on? |
| connect4 | IvayloS: And they also promised vacation. |
| harvey6ft | IvayloS: we are looking for Component Architects |
| AdamSelene | No code in arch. |
| SweetStrings | just UML? |
| kurtrips | admins: there was some talk of full time reviewers in dev/design. Is that going to happen? |
| mess | Eeyore: currently no techwriting yet |
| kclune | IvayloS: We have opportunities for Project Managers, Architects, and graphic designers. |
| connect4 | IvayloS: (scratch that code comment I made, AdamSelene just proved me wrong) |
| mess | Eeyore: but definitely the rest of stuff |
| AdamSelene | Pretty much - there may be some limited prototyping but even that should be sent out to the memberbase in general |
| IvayloS | and what should an component architect know before he starts work in top coder? |
| mess | kurtrips: their is a chance for that |
| mess | IvayloS: design comps are best |
| AdamSelene | (last comment was in re: code) |
| katie | IvayloS: competing in a design competition is always a good start |
| connect4 | katie: what about for those of us who are scared of ruining our "reliability"? What if my first design fails? Then I'll go from (undefined) to 0% reliable! :( |
| kurtrips | mess: if there's a chance then please do consider me :) |
| SweetStrings | I know TC offers algorithm tutorials and guidance, how would TC help one to improve at Component Design |
| SweetStrings | ?? |
| kclune | IvayloS: You probably ought to know something about software, but more importantly the biggest thing is knowing how software can solve a clients' problem, and how to create that solution. |
| AdamSelene | I think there is inherent philosophical value in moving from undefined to defined, even if it is defined as 0. |
| AdamSelene | and certainly technical value - less buggy |
| MB__ | mess: is it required to upload an resume to my profile to try applying to TCS? |
| katie | connect4: hmmm...i might defer that q to AdamSelene or mess |
| IvayloS | kclune: is there any preference for a programming language or something? |
| AdamSelene | I have answered it |
| mess | MB__: usually helps |
| Rustyoldman | AdamSelene: Better to remain quiet and be thought a fool, that to speak out and remove all doubt. |
| kclune | MB__: You don't have to upload your resume to apply. |
| AdamSelene | Don't conflate unreliability and foolishness |
| kclune | MB__: but at some point, it will be required. |
| mess | connect4: your reliability only starts after your first pass review |
| mess | connect4: so try try again |
| MB__ | kclune: thanks |
| Rustyoldman | AdamSelene: It is funnier that way |
| katie | connect4: :) |
| AdamSelene | very true |
| connect4 | mess: (shhhhh.... you're making my excuses for not doing designs go away!) |
| kclune | IvayloS: No, not really, but our software is bases on J2EE, and >Net technologies, so that is helpful. |
| mess | katie: and katie I only answer questions about pjs |
| kurtrips | admins: so what are the requirements for being an architect? |
| harvey6ft | connect4: yeah, you wouldn't want to win any money and complicate your income tax situation. |
| katie | mess: :) |
| harvey6ft | kurtrips: you must have architecture skills |
| mess | katie: someone has to be the straightman too for rustyoldman's jokes |
| connect4 | harvey6ft: Taxes are a nightmare! |
| kclune | IvayloS: but if you have a good understanding of enterprise systems, we will dfinitely consider you, or anyone. |
| harvey6ft | kurtrips: you must be a U.S. Citizen or green card holder, or TN Visa holder |
| harvey6ft | kurtrips: and you must compete in a design comp. at least once |
| katie | mess: you bet! |
| connect4 | harvey6ft: are you implying that Tennessee is a foreign nation? |
| harvey6ft | connect4: depends who you ask.... |
| AdamSelene | my wife's family is there, and the answer is yes |
| harvey6ft | connect4: there ya ca. |
| connect4 | AdamSelene: well answered |
| katie | lol |
| harvey6ft | connect4: uh.. there you go. |
| IvayloS | harvey6ft: if 70 % work at home why does one need a greeen card to do that? |
| AdamSelene | Clients are US based in general |
| harvey6ft | IvayloS: because the 30% that's left is working on the client site in the U.S. |
| mess | IvayloS: due to laws to be an employee you have to work in the us, but we do contract work for out of country people |
| kclune | IvayloS: Also everyone that works for TC is an employee of TC, and we don't have the capacity to sponsor H1B visas. |
| kclune | IvayloS: Unfortunately. |
| kclune | IvayloS: That doesn't mean though that you can't earn a solid living competing regularly in the design or dev. competitions. |
| connect4 | Well since TC apparently won't do my laundry for me, I'll be right back (probably with more exciting questions about components and goldfish) |
| katie | connect4: don't be long...we will miss you |
| kclune | IvayloS: You, or anyone can make some good $$$ competiting, and you'll also be able to have an important impact on the software services industry. |
| KaanSoral | after we become orange, cant we compete? |
| AdamSelene | KaanSoral: no |
| m4risU | connect4:... just say straight that you want to overthrone mess from being chief architect ;) |
| harvey6ft | so... how many other companies are you guys aware of that do what topcoder does? |
| IvayloS | kclune: (-: |
| gdiego | do you take people that are not red ? |
| KaanSoral | harvey6ft: is it a real question |
| gdiego | :) |
| Rustyoldman | harvey6ft: how many guys even know what TopCoder does? |
| harvey6ft | gdiego: yes |
| argol | how to use topcoder plungin? |
| AdamSelene | lol |
| harvey6ft | KaanSoral: yes, a real question |
| Malkava | Hello. Are there opportunities for interning at TopCoder? And for foreign people ? |
| kclune | Malkava: no, not really. |
| katie | Malkava: not for this summer |
| harvey6ft | here's a hint: Topcoder is the only company that builds software through competition |
| argol | admins: how to use topcoder plungin? |
| KaanSoral | harvey6ft: precisely |
| Eeyore | I'm looking at the TopCoder Software Front-End Designer/Developer job listing. It says "Ability to work on multiple projects at once," which is a bit scary. Does this mean overlapping deadlines and 80-hour work weeks? |
| visualage | argol: In the menu, choose Options, and then Editors. |
| visualage | argol: There you can add plugins. |
| kclune | Malkava: however, you are able to compete on a regular basis, and have the opportunity to make some money as well as develop you design and/or development skills, which will lead to a great job in the future. |
| sohelH | What kind of requirement are you looking for? |
| harvey6ft | Eeyore: no |
| katie | Eeyore: at tc, we don't do anything but work |
| lexgas | and what is your job as a software developer at TopCoder, will you develop the website ? |
| AdamSelene | I didn't know visualage is an admin now |
| katie | Eeyore: ;) |
| IvayloS | admins: thank you all.You a have been very helpfull but i guess i must catch up a little with the design and component competitions before applying to work.Have a nice day. |
| argol | admins: thanks,i'll try |
| KaanSoral | lexgas++; |
| harvey6ft | Eeyore: mess can give you more details about the overlaping project... but remember, we build software with component through competition, so we do much more in less time |
| kclune | AdamSelene: me either, when did that happen? |
| mess | Eeyore: we try to keep a good balanca |
| mess | Eeyore: balance |
| mess | Eeyore: but we are definitely looking for information architects (is what we like to call them) |
| KaanSoral | do we have to be 18+ to be orange? |
| mess | Eeyore: especially a lot of clients are doing more cutting edge web clients (Sliverlight, flex) |
| Eeyore | Wait a minute. Is the Front-End Designer/Developer a component job? I thought it was different. |
| harvey6ft | lexgas: no, you build large, enterprise wide systems for very large companies |
| AdamSelene | search me |
| Ryan | How does one become an architect? |
| harvey6ft | Eeyore: it's different |
| mess | Eeyore: you work with the component team but it is for the full application process |
| katie | Ryan: have you thought about design comps? |
| harvey6ft | Eeyore: the job we're talking about is the "Component Architect" position |
| mess | Eeyore: we also need people that can do thick client design as well |
| lexgas | harvey6ft: so, it is like an assembly job ? |
| kclune | Ryan: just apply and interview, and if we like you, we'll hire you. |
| kclune | Ryan: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| AdamSelene | KaanSoral: Yes, I believe so. Full time employees have to be over 18+ and US residents (or legal to work in the US through visa or green card) |
| Eeyore | Aha. I understand. |
| KaanSoral | so they didivde the job in components and you are offering us to write those? |
| Rustyoldman | Ryan: I is kind of a state of mind. You just start acting like an architect. |
| Larry | Im2Good: UR2Yellow |
| harvey6ft | Ryan: first step, go here: http://software.topcoder.com/applications/index.jsp |
| KaanSoral | Us residents ... you should have told that on the begining ... |
| harvey6ft | Ryan: second step, compete in a design contest at least once |
| katie | Rustyoldman: yes...like a snap of the finger |
| harvey6ft | KaanSoral: we did... several times... |
| harvey6ft | KaanSoral: sorry... |
| Rustyoldman | Ryan: (It is...) |
| Im2Good | Larry: nicely spotted :p |
| Ryan | Rustyoldman: I think you are a state of mind |
| harvey6ft | KaanSoral: no, the component architect is the one who in part breaks down a system into components |
| KaanSoral | an offline question, if i get in to harvard or mit, how much can i earn in Usa ? |
| harvey6ft | KaanSoral: not the one who writes the components...we build software through competition, and the winner of the competition writes the component |
| Rustyoldman | Ryan: I am arkansas of mind |
| KaanSoral | harvey6ft: thank you i understand |
| AdamSelene | KaanSoral: there is probably a very high ceiling on that statistic |
| fmendez69 | so what are the requirements, beside not been a weak grey like me :p |
| harvey6ft | KaanSoral: don't know.. but if you are a yellow or red TC member in the U.S. you can earn well over 500k in the financials field |
| fmendez69 | o_O |
| harvey6ft | KaanSoral: regardless of your college |
| AdamSelene | sign me up |
| KaanSoral | harvey6ft: heheh, isnt there money on computer field? |
| katie | AdamSelene: you can't...you're orange ;) |
| AdamSelene | details |
| katie | AdamSelene: :) |
| harvey6ft | KaanSoral: yes, being a programmer in the financials field pays that well at the right companies... heavy algo. work |
| connect4 | Honey, I'm home! |
| kclune | fmendez69: basically we're looking for people who have good client and customer facing skills (secondary), but also people who understand software, software architecture, and really problem solving through software. |
| KaanSoral | harvey6ft: i understand thank you |
| harvey6ft | if you'd like to chat with one of the world famous Topcoder Recruiters opt in hehttp://software.topcoder.com/applications/index.jspre: |
| kclune | once again before everyone leaves, if you would like to work for TopCoder, please apply here: |
| kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| KaanSoral | harvey6ft: Is there need for programmers in Usa or are there enough already, in Turkey everyone is enginner so engineers earn very little |
| Insight | If one isn't a US Resident, can one still become hired? I know that there are quite a few oranges from around the world -- are they all relocated to the US? |
| connect4 | Next question: Assume that my wife is interested in getting a goldfish. Will this affect my application status? |
| katie | connect4: of course it does |
| kclune | KaanSoral: Every company in the US for the most part needs developers. |
| abhicool | ritu_lolo: hii |
| Jrock | ilyanep: almost forgot.... |
| katie | connect4: no detail is left behind |
| harvey6ft | sorry, gave the wrong link, here is the correct link: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| bekerpico | when the contest will begin ? |
| kclune | KaanSoral: where you work, and what field you choose is up to you, but no matter what, with your TC rating, you will be very comfortable anywhere. |
| connect4 | katie: OK good. I like that answer. Remind me to tell her this next time she asks me about it. |
| KaanSoral | kclune: so after getting a master degree in mit or harvard or an equal can i easily find a job? |
| bekerpico | after how many minute ? |
| katie | connect4: see, there ya go |
| KaanSoral | kclune: hmm |
| AjJi | bekerpico: 10 |
| bekerpico | 10 min :d |
| kclune | KaanSoral: You should be easily able to find a job from either of those schools. |
| kclune | KaanSoral: and make lots of money. |
| kclune | KaanSoral: which is nice. |
| connect4 | kclune: what about a PhD (not in CS) from a dum Ivy league skool? |
| kclune | KaanSoral: doesn't matter, Ivy League is money. |
| KaanSoral | kclune: well able to earn money doing your job is nice |
| connect4 | kclune: I'm not KaanSoral :) |
| KaanSoral | kclune: hard to do it in Turkey |
| bozzball | i have been working as a quantitative analyst / programmer for a hedge fund in NYC for the last 2 years but am now looking to change industries |
| brute_false | bakakkkkakaaa |
| gaborek | what will happen when I click Apply Now?? :D |
| Abednego | bozzball: which hedge fund? |
| connect4 | gaborek: some web script will run, which will send data to some computer, probably the TC server |
| katie | bozzball: what industry do you want to be in? |
| brute_false | PLN..Don't busted me |
| KaanSoral | kclune: you have probably shaked my life line =D |
| bozzball | computers |
| KaanSoral | kclune: in a different direction |
| kclune | gaborek: You'll just go into a database that is only viewable by TC trained professionals. |
| katie | bozzball: maybe work for us?? |
| viswa_ceg | Petr: hi |
| Xuchen | kclune: What skills are quired it one is not in US currently and willing to be in US? |
| bozzball | katie: who are you? topcoder? |
| viswa_ceg | Petr: u there? |
| katie | bozzball: yes...i work for topcoder |
| KaanSoral | admins: Thanks everyone |
| harvey6ft | bozzball: run out of places to put your cash? |
| connect4 | kclune: You mean like the Matrix? click the button/take the pill and Poof! you're in a whole new world |
| bozzball | katie: i could be interested |
| Xuchen | kclune: In the link you given, for Archetect position, the requirement is a bit high for me. |
| kclune | KaanSoral: Well, you have to make the choice for yourself, but no matter what you choose, any of the schools you go to will give you great opportunities. |
| katie | bozzball: well, if so...here is the link |
| katie | bozzball: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| Xuchen | kclune: But there is no *developer* position for one who is not in US. |
| kclune | Xuchen: Try competing in a design competition, and see how you do. |
| KaanSoral | kclune: thank, you may the force be with you =P |
| katie | bozzball: but remember, no coding with the position |
| kclune | KaanSoral: and you. |
| Xuchen | kclune: I see. I will try to do it. Thank you! |
| Rustyoldman | so, how is the weather there? |
| m4risU | time to prepare some templates ;) |
| harvey6ft | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| katie | thanks everybody! cheers |
| kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| kclune | Good luck everyone. |
| harvey6ft | The best thing about being a Component Architect with TC??? |
| almostalbert | how do i get into my room!? |
| connect4 | Rustyoldman: /msg NickServ confirm e17b8UAVX |
| jtura | thx |
| connect4 | Rustyoldman: ack |
| connect4 | Rustyoldman: http://www.weather.com/weather/local/USCT0081?from=search_city |
| Emilian_Miron | rrenaud: hey, where did you run to ? |
| mohamedafattah | almostalbert: active contests -> enter |
| krabishe | ping |
| almostalbert | thanks |
| Lord-Venom | not working |
| harvey6ft | if you'd like to learn more about working for Topcoder as a component architect go here: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| Xuchen | harvey6ft: what's the position for the link you given? There is only "Apply Now" button |
| Lord-Venom | admin: asdf |
| Lord-Venom | admin: how come the enter is still disabled for me |
| harvey6ft | for the component architect position |
| CBMcArthur | Lord-Venom: Room assignments are not complete yet. |
| dhoni | Lord-Venom: its disabled for every1 |
| harvey6ft | Xuchen: for the component architect position |
| dhoni | Lord-Venom: wait for 1 min |
| connect4 | harvey/katie/adam/mess: thank ye all for your time |
| Lord-Venom | admin: oh that was for TCHS never mind |
| magicpig | harvey6ft: to be orange is good:) |
| anton_dimitrov | KaanSoral: /room anton_dimitrov |
| harvey6ft | Thanks everyone, and good luck in the arena! |
| dhoni | gl+hf to all |
| connect4 | now if only you could do the laundry for me... |
| mess | Thanks everyone |
| mesop | fighting!!! |
| anton_dimitrov | KaanSoral: ups, mistake :) |
| theycallmemorty | I'm a gonna weeeen... |
| vlad_D | MB__: good luck |
| m4risU | Bya |
| kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| katie | kclune: can you give me that link again? |
| AdamSelene | you're sick |
| katie | AdamSelene: lol |
| kclune | Sure it's: |
| kclune | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=tcs |
| AdamSelene | =) |
| asp0585 | how will I know to which room i am assgned? |
| katie | kclune: thanks...didn't catch it before |
| AdamSelene | Under the active contests menu |
| AdamSelene | top of the screen |
