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| gt494 | Jan_Kuipers: are you interested in working there? |
| ibbu | I am interseted in working in NY |
| Jan_Kuipers | i'm not sure... I've got no experience at all in finance, so I don't really know what to expect from such a job |
| ibbu | I am waiting for my citizenship |
| gt494 | ibbu: when will you have it? |
| revtekniques | Jan_Kuipers: you dont need experience |
| revtekniques | Jan_Kuipers: ;) |
| revtekniques | Jan_Kuipers: you just need to be smart |
| citigroup4 | hi. sorry for the delay |
| revtekniques | Jan_Kuipers: we should have drinks again sometime and talk about this jan |
| ibbu | may be in 3 months I almost complete my Bachelors in Computer Science |
| gt494 | citigroup4: no problem |
| gt494 | citigroup4: ready to get started? |
| Jan_Kuipers | revtekniques: sounds like an excellent plan |
| revtekniques | Jan_Kuipers: definitely! |
| ibbu | what do i need to work at citigroup as a canadian citizen |
| citigroup4 | We have chatted a number of times about opportunities at citigroup. Hopefully we can answerr questions for those that know nothing about what we are doing and contune answerring questions for those that have seen our prior chats |
| citigroup4 | for canadian citizens = one needs an h1 or a nafta viasa |
| ibbu | do I have to apply for it or u guys give me one |
| gt494 | Jan_Kuipers: what questions do you have for citigroup4 ? |
| nfamus | What kind of jobs are there? |
| citigroup4 | We are always looking for people for a wide variety of areas in our top areas of financial algorithm technology |
| Eeyore | Why is the word city misspelled in citigroup? |
| gt494 | citigroup4: which group do you work in? |
| shaqt | Hi |
| citigroup4 | I am in equity derivatives. |
| gdiego | do you hire yellows or just red ? |
| gdiego | :) |
| gt494 | citigroup4: ahh, part of Ryan's group then? |
| ibbu | do I have to apply for it or u guys give me one |
| Eeyore | citigroup4: Do you code financial algorithms yourself? |
| Simeon | ci |
| Eeyore | ibbu: Your offer of employment is in the mail already. |
| citigroup4 | gt, yes |
| harvey6ft | Canadian Visas are usually fairly easy to get as long as you have a four year degree |
| nfamus | Who are the reps here?? |
| gt494 | nfamus: citigroup4 is |
| nfamus | Thanks |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup4: What sort of interesting challenges do you work on? |
| citigroup4 | eeyore, yes we create the algorithms to make or help make trading decisions and then implement them into production |
| Simeon | What regions of the globe are you hiring in? Asia/Pacific? |
| nfamus | So most of the openings deal with financial algorithms |
| citigroup4 | most of the openings are in the new york area |
| citigroup4 | we also have an IT office in warren, nj |
| nfamus | The city or in upstate new york |
| citigroup4 | downtown manhattan |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup4: I don't know much about finance, but I'd like to know what sort of interesting problems you are working on? |
| nfamus | Is there any specific language you are looking for? |
| nfamus | C, Java, VB |
| mikemir8 | do you offer nafta visas for mexican programmers? |
| shaqt | im assuming Java and VB is for inhouse apps, and C for data manipulation? |
| citigroup4 | jan, the problems are very challenging. often they relate to low latency, high throughput, or distributed systems. the volumes of data we deal with are enormous - many GB per day |
| citigroup4 | we use C#, Java, and C++, depending on the particular group |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup4: i see, thanks |
| gdiego | citigroup4: what do you have to do to apply |
| shaqt | /admin |
| gt494 | gdiego: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=contracting&d2=citigroup |
| kclune | What is the environment like? |
| Jan_Kuipers | revtekniques: don't worry... |
| Jan_Kuipers | revtekniques: hehe |
| citigroup4 | I am unfortunately unsure of our visa policy; it's always been case by case when I've encountered it. |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup4: what sort of algorithms are you working with? |
| citigroup4 | by the environment, do you mean the office? |
| harvey6ft | What is the career path at Citigroup in your group? |
| shaqt | in applicants do u look at GPA or non-academic perfoamance,, |
| citigroup4 | if you work on the trading floor, it's a massive room with 500 people. most of the IT offices are cubicles |
| citigroup1 | Hi. |
| nfamus | Do you need a degree to get a job with citigroup |
| revtekniques | general |
| gt494 | citigroup1: hello |
| citigroup4 | we definitely look at GPA and academic accomplishments, in addition to previous job experience, and brainteasers and techical problems administered during interviews |
| revtekniques | who dividisions are you guys hiring for? |
| subodhl82 | Hi |
| nfamus | But do you need a degree to get a job? |
| citigroup4 | nfa, generally yes, you need an undergraduate degree, though sometimes internships are available |
| harvey6ft | what are the interviews like? |
| subodhl82 | Do you prefer CS or MIS guys? |
| citigroup4 | probably CS, but it's case by case |
| gt494 | citigroup4: did you see Jan_Kuipers' question of ... what sort of algorithms are you working with? |
| nfamus | What about software engineers, are you looking for them |
| citigroup1 | My name is Gene, I just graduated with bachelor in Applied Physics and Mathematics, and started this summer with Citigroup half way through to getting MS in Statistics. |
| shaqt | Im involved in a lot of algorithmic coding..am developing a novel cryptosystem in C, and have some other architect level experience |
| gt494 | citigroup1: HI Gene |
| citigroup4 | the interviews include reviewing your resume and plenty of technical questions and, if you have experience, an assessment of your industry knowledge |
| citigroup4 | we don't do too much crypto here, sorry :) |
| jmpld40 | citigroup1: hi gene |
| asadfiroze | Do you provide internship opportunities to students from Canadian Universities |
| shaqt | however, I am paying for my own tuition..contract CS jobs,etc..so much GPA is pretty *SAD* |
| ibbu | citigroup4: do you hire people with 3 years bachelor dgree in CS |
| ibbu | citigroup4: degree* |
| laughingMan | citigroup1: are you working with soft developer team ? |
| subodhl82 | In an initial screening what GPA cutoffs are generally done? |
| citigroup1 | Being from non-U.S. university is not a problem, just you need a visa. |
| gdiego | do you hire people that is doing second year at university :D ? |
| gt494 | citigroup1: what are you doing at Citi? |
| Talyn11 | are there any entry level positions for recent graduates with a CS degree? |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup4: I've got the impression that you are not specifically looking for people with a background in finance. What do you do to bring them up to date (in finance)? |
| citigroup1 | We are constantly looking for top-notch CS guys |
| citigroup4 | if you have a bachelors, you are good. if you don't, you might be an intern, but not full time |
| kclune | is it possible for someone to work there full time, and continue their education during off hours? |
| harvey6ft | what's your interview process like? |
| jmpld40 | citigroup2: hello citi2 |
| citigroup1 | Jan_Kuipers: Finance education is not what matters. I have a degree in Physics and Statistics. |
| citigroup4 | my degree is in math, though w/ a minor in finance |
| citigroup1 | Jan_Kuipers: And it's not that many people here have their fitrst degree in Finance. |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup1: do they give you in house education on finance? |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup1: (btw, i have a degree in physics/math too) |
| citigroup1 | The 1st rounfd of interview process if about what you know. I.e. if you're CS, it will be about CS :) After that it's usually math and probability. |
| Talyn11 | does citigroup offer any programs for continuing education, if i wanted to persue a masters degree while employed |
| mehfish | so learning is more on-the-job? |
| citigroup4 | kclune: you can continue graduate work, but you should have completed your undergrad |
| tavbert | Have you begun contacting people from topcoder for interviews? |
| gt494 | tavbert: yes several people have had interviews |
| Ryan | probability is all about DP |
| citigroup1 | I'm continuing to work towards my MS and (in future) PhD degree ona part-time basis. And Citigroup is going to even pay for it. |
| chamilbt | hi i have heard that citygroup is expanding in Sri Lanka |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup1: well done |
| asadfiroze | I have graduated from Canadian University and went back home in Dubai. Are you hiring here in Dubai |
| chamilbt | do u have any programming work there ? |
| gdiego | how do you interview someone in other country? |
| ibbu | Talyn11: I saw one ad from citigroup they were hiring in sussex and u can complete ur MS while studying they pay for it 2 |
| citigroup3 | we have offices all over but our groups (the high end trading system development) is in NY, London, and HK |
| Talyn11 | i probably missed this but what are the primary locations of citigroup? |
| Ryan | topcoder has a high international following |
| citigroup1 | On-the-job learning is very intensive. But you to bringing something to the table s a plus as well :) |
| chamilbt | oh |
| citigroup3 | we tend to only interview in the location where they will work. if it is first round and the person will eventually work in NY - we may have them interview 1st in london - but that is rare |
| gt494 | for citi1 - citi4, what do people have to know to work at citi? Meaning what are you looking for? |
| schoi21c | where in NY? |
| citigroup1 | Interviewing in other country is done over the phone for the first round. Our team here turned out to is very multilingual and multinational btw. |
| citigroup3 | downtown and warren NJ |
| merolish | Yeah, it's a very nice building in east midtown. |
| citigroup4 | gt494: we are looking foremost for raw intelligence and programming prowess. finance is not required though somewhat useful; same with math. |
| gt494 | citigroup3: which group do you work in at citi/ |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup1: Can you describe in more detail what sort of projects you're working on? |
| schoi21c | what kind of programming related work do you have? |
| gt494 | citigroup4: how do you assess raw intelligence and programming prowess? |
| citigroup3 | Everyone here is from equity derivatives or stat arb systems or algorithm development |
| citigroup4 | gt494: real-time systems in C++, Java, and C# |
| citigroup1 | A LOT of programming work is going on here. We are in process of building a new generation of infrastructure for relative-value trading for instance. And surprisingly it is much more about CS than Math of Stats or Finance. |
| citigroup1 | (from the man-hour standpoint) |
| citigroup4 | gt494: brainteasers, technical tests, topcoder tests |
| subodhl82 | SOA? |
| merolish | Uh, is your infrastructure on Windows? |
| citigroup3 | we need both raw intellegence and CS. CS is our language so we require people to be very fluent in it before we even get into the math |
| citigroup4 | gt494: different groups are on Linux, Solaris, and Windows |
| SmileyGirl256 | Hi. I was wondering - for a software engineer, what are the advantages of working at Citigroup rather than a straight software company like Microsoft? |
| Talyn11 | what can you expect in an interview with citigroup? if you are CS person will it be primarily technical? |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup1: what is the ratio mah / cs like? |
| citigroup3 | we use both linux and windows. most derivatives is windows. most stat arb is linux |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup1: mah -> math |
| subodhl82 | were you referring to web services? |
| citigroup4 | gt494: The advantage of Citigroup v MSFT is that you see your work put into practice; you can interact with the real users and see the profits on a daily basis |
| citigroup3 | It will be VERY technical. we expect a lot. We expect people to know what they say they know at a very high level. We expect people that explore on their own to have a deep understanding of the basics but a broad understanding as well |
| citigroup1 | Jan_Kuipers: For example, mymain project now is building a cognitive layer of relative-value trading infrastructure. Like a human brain it has reflex layer and cognitive layer. |
| citigroup1 | Jan_Kuipers: Reflex one is built and is as necessary as water. Cognitive is the one that actually thinks more long-term and analyzes past. It's very interesting, I work long-hours a lot. |
| citigroup4 | gt494: MSFT doesn't do too many real-time systems and doesn't deal with the data volume we do; that makes it more challenging |
| citigroup3 | we find many people know the basic structure of a language but do not know the details. when bulding high high performance having an performance edge in small things is key. |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup1: what is the work environment like, i.e. team size, dress code, work hours, etc? |
| citigroup4 | Jan_Kuipers: be careful that you don't overfit the data (most neural nets do) |
| Talyn11 | so basically be prepared to know a language inside and out.... |
| gdiego | the youngest person in citigroup is about ? |
| gdiego | 20 ? 30 ? |
| citigroup4 | Jan_Kuipers: I was 21 when I started |
| citigroup1 | Jan_Kuipers: math / cs in man-hours is 10% / 90% for a guy like me (quick at math/stats/physics) and not as quick at CS |
| citigroup3 | gene was just hired out of school at 22. I was hired when i was 20 |
| citigroup1 | Jan_Kuipers: but if you're CS it can be vice versa or even 50/50 |
| citigroup4 | Jan_Kuipers: group size is usually 5-15 |
| citigroup4 | Jan_Kuipers: dress is business casual |
| citigroup1 | business casua, ezxactly |
| citigroup4 | Jan_Kuipers: work hours, perhaps 40-60 per week, you usually have your weekends to yourself |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup1: i have master degrees in physics and math, my CS skills basically come from topcoder and alike contests |
| citigroup3 | we do development in c++, c#, and java. different groups use differnt languages. derivatives is mostly c++ and c#. stat arb is c++ and java. |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup1: so it'll probably be like your 10/90 |
| gdiego | citigroup4: so, if you work 40 hours, you cant study while you work |
| citigroup1 | weekends to yourself, at least in my experience -- not like i-bankers... |
| merolish | Heh. |
| citigroup4 | Jan_Kuipers: full time is 40 hours anywhere in the USA |
| citigroup3 | c++ is a key base. We find many java or c# only developers dont know as much of the fundamentals that we view as very important |
| pinano | citigroup3: what do you mean by "fundamentals"? |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup4: I know, but are you really working 40 hours? Or more? I'm at Yahoo! now and 50-60 hours is more common |
| citigroup4 | some people come at 9 and leave at 6, some come at 8 and leave at 8 |
| merolish | Want to tell us about the strategies you're working on? :) |
| abi_k | citigroup1: do you expect a major in cs/math? I am a major in electrical eng. but have been doing good in tc/ACM. |
| citigroup3 | how to deal with memory allocation / pointer structures / key speed algorithms. there is a lot that you dont need to know as a java ./ c# only developer. While ok in most development - it ios hard to be a guru level if you dont know how to build |
| citigroup3 | some of the structurs from scratch |
| citigroup4 | merolish: of course, we'll tell you all of our secrets. so which competitor do you work at? :) |
| abi_k | citigroup1: with a minor in cs |
| citigroup1 | that's what I do... in the daytime you get distracted a lot, but in the evenings you can spend some time to concentrate... |
| citigroup1 | like in the daytime you're more multitask vs in the evenings you can complete everything |
| citigroup4 | merolish: more seriously, we make the computers make trading decisions in US equities and exchange-traded equity derivatives |
| citigroup3 | we solve fun problems. when you solve fun problems you want to see them completed and the time is not as much a factor. additionally - there is high reward for performance |
| merolish | Good stuff. |
| pinano | citigroup3: so, a C# coder with heavy background in c shouldn't be too bad off, right? |
| roguexz | does citigroup work like most of the big corporates where time usually is not a big factor? |
| citigroup4 | roguexz: what do you mean? |
| citigroup1 | abi_k: EE is a great major. You did a lot of signal processing, I believe. And a really good thing about it is that you augmented it with a decent CS experience. You are on a very god track. Definitely send us your resume. |
| citigroup4 | roguexz: 'time is not a factor'? |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup1: what is the payment like? Do you get interesting bonuses on how profitable your program is? :) |
| citigroup1 | abi_k: especially your minor in CS is a good augmentation |
| citigroup3 | pinano: true. the key is knowing the fundamentals. |
| igorsk | When do you begin hiring interns for summer 2006? |
| roguexz | well, i work for Oracle. We are a product based company, where time is not the primary factor... especially since, we control the product lines... is work with Citigroup close to that? |
| citigroup4 | igorsk: around January 2006 if we recruit on campus, any time up to May otherwise |
| pinano | roguexz: i work in a similar arena, but a much smaller niche ;) i write tax administration software for my state |
| roguexz | what happened to the text i just typed??? |
| pinano | roguexz: i expect to have, at a maximum, 92 copies of my software sold |
| citigroup3 | Jan_Kuipers: we dont lose people because of pay. if you work as hard as we do - compensation is top anywhere around. we have to be since we are so picky |
| citigroup3 | Jan_Kuipers: and having good algorithms is the lifeblood of our business |
| nfamus | Are you looking for COBOL programmers. |
| Lord-Venom | what is the application process for intern |
| citigroup4 | roguexz: we produce products, but the users can come hunt you down if you are slow delivering |
| citigroup1 | nfamus: CitiTech would be VERY interested in COBOL programmers |
| citigroup3 | nfamus: we are not - but other groups may be. cobol is in demand but specific groups. often the mainframe groups which is not us |
| citigroup4 | roguexz: also if there are any problems intraday, you may have to fix them within minutes |
| igorsk | citigroup4: Is there any chance of interviewing for Summer 2006 earlier? My current employer will want to know whether i'm coming back by November |
| citigroup4 | igorsk: for an internship or full time? |
| nfamus | citigroup1: Thanks, I will look in to that. |
| merolish | Which developer tools do you use? |
| igorsk | citigroup4: internship |
| roguexz | citigroup4: I never meant that we are slow producers. ... once the product is with the ustomer, then they decide what timelines we work at ... but at the conception stage, it is pretty much what we want... :) |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup3: How large are the budgets your stock trading algorithms are working with? |
| citigroup3 | nfamus: We are starting a new summer internship program next year for 'elite' technology developers. I would check out citi;s career web site for details |
| citigroup4 | igorsk: november is standard for full time but i haven't heard of it for internships. most internships require decisions in february or march. if you're good maybe we can interview you before your nov. deadline, possibly |
| Ragnarok | OlexiyO: :) |
| OlexiyO | Ragnarok: yo man |
| citigroup3 | Jan_Kuipers: We base capital off risk. different than traditional measures. All together - algorithms trade over 50% of all stock. We are amoung the largest players. |
| citigroup4 | roguexz: conception comes from the business; it dictates the features and performance necessary to compete |
| roguexz | citigroup4: true. but what i have noticed in most of the product based companies (from all my friends, etc) is that they are primarily lazy... no offense to any company,but that is a fact dude... :-) |
| schoi21c | people flooding into the room ... :) |
| prayanks | citigroup1: what kind of questions are asked in interviews, can you give us example of a real question? |
| ankitgupta | does citigroup offer summer internship to students? |
| citigroup4 | ankit, yes |
| Talyn11 | can you tell us the benefits to working for citigroup? |
| citigroup3 | roguexz: Most are lazy. That is why we have small specialized groups that are focused on hard problems that are core to the business. look at pixar - it is product based but the tech challenges are huge |
| debugger123 | in citigroup any other softwares they are doing except citibank |
| citigroup1 | prayanks: In which area? Are you comfortable with financial math question now? |
| citigroup3 | roguexz: we are similar. our product is our lifeblood. if we are lazy - we are dead |
| citigroup4 | Talyn11: good hours, interesting challenges, compensation, the opportunity to make a large impact (because we are such a large player in the markets) |
| citigroup3 | roguexz: that does not mean that we dont have 'lazy' groups. that is why in product based firms you have to look carefully at the group |
| prayanks | Lets say one example of a C++ question and one example of a Fin Math question? :-) |
| citigroup4 | fin math: which is worth more, an asian or european option with identical terms, and why? |
| datawrangler | citigroup1: hi, which geographic areas are hiring now? |
| sarangrao | citigroup1: are you just looking at candidates who are in the US or do you recruit people who are based elsewhere too? |
| citigroup3 | roguexz: c++ - we tend to not ask specific questions but lead a discussion on how things work. We let this conversation wander which makes it a difficult interview |
| matmis | so much for the math in question... |
| prayanks | :-) |
| shahgee | Do you allways look for experience or there are entry lavel jobs also |
| citigroup4 | downtown manhattan, warren NJ, maybe london and hong kong. this chat does not cover any others |
| starwiz | What programming languages do you guys generally use? |
| citigroup1 | prayanks: Assume you know for sure that ["realized"] volatility for a particular stock will be 20% during the following 12 months and the implied volatility of options traded today at-the-money is 30%. |
| citigroup1 | prayanks: How do you make 1 million dollars out of it assuming your forecast is correct. |
| cvoinescu | anything is worth more than european options -- they are the most restrictive |
| citigroup4 | shahgee: both, as long as you have at least an undergrad degree (except for interns) |
| citigroup4 | shahgee: C++, C#, Java |
| roguexz | citigroup4: ok, i get the picture.... that makes sense now, especially if you have a specialised group doing the core work... would like to work with them for sure, given an oppurtunity. |
| citigroup4 | cvoinescu: american |
| Merlin[Kyiv] | citigroup1: Do international students have chance of employing with Citigroup (not from the areas just mentioned)? |
| citigroup4 | starwiz: oops, the languages were misaddressed |
| citigroup1 | VISAS: being international vs American is not a big concern in my experience. I am from Russia and when i was hires I was on a plain F-1 student visa, but it worked out. The main thing is WHAT YOU CAN DO. |
| merolish | I assume C++ is used for the most performance-critical stuff? |
| citigroup4 | cvoinescu: american is worth more, but asian is not. a little overconfident, you are young jedi :) |
| debugger123 | right now i am in india if i got opportunity to work in citigroup how can i get opportuinity to work in usa |
| starwiz | What kind of experience do you look for in interns? Just general experience with either C++, Java, or C#? Or something specific? |
| OlexiyO | Ragnarok: Mellit is back :) |
| pinano | citigroup3: thanks for answering my questions |
| citigroup1 | VISAS: There are interview questions in CS, Physics, Math etc as well. |
| citigroup1 | I didn't mean to say "visas" |
| amirshim | merolish: Although alot of performance critical is done in c++ we are seeing great performance from c#. |
| alberto | hirai: e ae |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup1: Do you really ask physics question in the interview? |
| citigroup1 | Mogno poobschatsa na russkom, no u menia russkoi klavy net. |
| cvoinescu | citigroup4: i have much to learn |
| citigroup3 | We are increasingly using c# for even many performance applications (.net 2.0 has nice performance). Most core infrastructure is still c++ as you cant beat it when performance is key |
| citigroup4 | cvoinescu: for interns we look mostly at your education, and ask you some technical questions. your work experience is less of a factor |
| nicka81 | citigroup1: ostorozhno, zdes' mnogo russkix ;-) |
| taggy | how to apply for citigroup internships ? |
| dmytro | citigroup1: kakoj univer ty zakanchival? |
| wdtseng | warmingup: hey.. |
| warmingup | wdtseng: hi |
| datawrangler | citigroup4: euro -> only exercise @ expiry... |
| datawrangler | citigroup4: american -> exercise up to expiry |
| citigroup1 | Jan_Kuipers: yes, we would ask physics questions if you claim you're top notch at physics |
| chamilbt | Can a forign recident apply for any of u'r positions ? |
| Merlin[Kyiv] | citigroup1: Ya student, specialnost - finansovaya matematika. Krome togo silniy CS background (rabotayu programmistom). Zhivu v Ukraine. Sleduet li mne hotya by interesovatsya predlozheniyami Citigroup? |
| datawrangler | citigroup4: but what's unique about asian? |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup1: okay I see |
| chamilbt | say some one fromthe sub continent applying to HK? |
| gdiego | so, would you hire someone living in latin america :) ? |
| citigroup4 | asian --> payoff is based on average price of security over some period |
| citigroup3 | dmytro: citi website - hr site. there will be a link about citi technology internships soon |
| taggy | citigroup1: how to apply for internships ? |
| citigroup1 | Merlin[Kyiv]: Man, if you wrote in English, much more topcoders would understand what you are asking about... |
| datawrangler | citigroup4: ah- thanks, ive never worked with those |
| citigroup4 | gdiego: you'd have to relocate to one of the locales mentioned |
| Jan_Kuipers | citigroup1: when (which time of the year) do you usually have interns? |
| citigroup1 | taggy: email us your resume |
| gt494 | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=contracting&d2=citigroup |
| Merlin[Kyiv] | citigroup1: You proposed that yourself :-) |
| gdiego | citigroup4: yes, if you pay me a ticket I would go anywere you mention :) |
| starwiz | /w GoatBeard Yeah. But, I think it was Yahoo, they had a few guys who were real, highly-rated TC members. |
| gt494 | apply there |
| Petr | citigroup1: don't underestimate the amount of Russians :) |
| citigroup3 | gdiego: it is hard without a visa. often people come to get a grad degree in the us specifically so they can get an f-1 and then get an entry position. it is tough without it |
| anand_nalya | ci |
| citigroup4 | in many cases we pay for relocation |
| anand_nalya | citigroup1: why did u sell out i-flex |
| cvoinescu | citygroup4: oh. now i see, asian options have less volatility, because they are an average; also, they capture a bit less interest rate, i think, but that's minor compared to the difference caused by volatility |
| Antonio_Ocampo | hi cslucano |
| citigroup3 | anand_nalya: i-flex is fixed income. dont know the story |
| revtekniques | if you have any questions about applying to them....you can email jquach@topcoder.com, bflood@topcoder.com, or kclune@topcoder.com |
| citigroup4 | cvoinescu: yes. what's the mathematical theorem that you'd use to prove it? |
| citigroup1 | Merlin[Kyiv]: As an intternational you should have a student F-1 or J-1 visa. They are hard to get unless you are a student in U.S. school. |
| taggy | admins: It's only job applcn there. I wanto apply for interns ? how do i do that ? |
| gt494 | taggy: same way |
| gt494 | taggy: someone from TC will contact you |
| citigroup1 | Merlin[Kyiv]: Also you can intern under much easier to get visas like B1/B2 but you will be "unpaid volunteer" |
| nicka81 | citigroup1: is there any possibility to apply without F-1 or J-1? |
| nicka81 | citigroup1: for example, with B1/B2 only? |
| taggy | admins: how do they know i am applying for interns or job? how do u contact me wihtout knowing it ??? |
| revtekniques | taggy: email me at jquach@topcoder.com |
| gt494 | taggy: we contact you either way :) |
| taggy | admins: thank-you |
| TheFaxman | taggy: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=contracting&d2=index |
| citigroup3 | we have 5 mins and this is citi's last chat. Is there any last questions. it has been good chatting these last 3 times |
| cvoinescu | citigroup4: i have no idea what it would be called. i have to prove two things, that lower volatility in black-scholes implies lower price (easy) and that averages have lower sigma (also easy, there's a simple formula) |
| gdiego | and the competition will start :) GL ALL |
| citigroup1 | Merlin[Kyiv]: Under B1/B2 it is possible to intern. However you'll have to work for free for some time. Maybe Citigroup can provide housing for you and basic expences, but not more. Otherwise it would be illegal. |
| citigroup4 | that latter part is the harder part, and I'm thinking of jensen's inequality |
| Jan_Kuipers | thanks for amswering all questions! |
| taggy | admins: thank you! :) |
| alberto | hirai: ? |
| Merlin[Kyiv] | citigroup1: Thank you |
| nicka81 | citigroup1: ok, thanks for answering our questions |
| roguexz | citigroup4: thanks for the time.. till later... |
| gdiego | citigroup1-4: thx |
| amirshim | good luck everyone |
| starwiz | citigroup1: Thanks, guys. |
| ibbu | Thank you citigroup |
| harvey6ft | good luck everyone!! |
| chamilbt | thanks and gl to all |
| ibbu | thank you |
| schoi21c | what do we do now for competition? it's my first time |
| citigroup1 | Merlin[Kyiv]: B1/B2 you can get easily if you are invited by a company to do business, but not earn salary. Citigroup is a big and respectful company, however I don't know anybody who would use this way |
| jmpld40 | thanks for chatting, citigroup guys |
| ankitgupta | what kind of candidates is citigroup looking as summer interns |
| revtekniques | good luck!!!! |
| kclune | good luck everyone! |
| new | Amir_CE: Hi |
| new | Amir_CE: dige |
| iBrokeMyLeg | everyone is getting sucked away :) |
| citigroup1 | Merlin[Kyiv]: Good luck! |
| citigroup1 | Good luck! |
| new | Amir_CE: what's news? |
| ankitgupta | citigroup1: whatking of candidates is citigroup looking as summer interns |
| citigroup3 | ankitgupta: same as full time. more about what we can train vs. experience. being smart and motivated - all that matters |
| ankitgupta | citigroup1: can a summer internship be done for 3 months? |
| citigroup3 | ankitgupta: that is the typical time. june to aug |
| digiassn | What division of Citi do you guys work for? CBNA, CARDS? (I work for Citi and am curious) |
| citigroup1 | Equity Derivatives |
| digiassn | Is that a business on its own? Is it commercial or consumer? Just curious, I dont think Ive heard of that group. |
| citigroup1 | It's part of GCIB (Global Corporate and Investment Banking) |
| citigroup1 | It is an institutional business. |
| digiassn | You guys in NY or NJ? |
| citigroup1 | NY |
| digiassn | What got you guys interested in looking for talent through Topcoder? I mean how did you come across the site to scout for talent? Ive been wanting to use a similar approach... |
| citigroup4 | we are often looking for non headhunter resumes. we hate rehashed wall street resumes. we want top peolpe from all fields as the finance is the least importnant |
| digiassn | Looking to get away from resumes with buzz words to get through the HR filters? :) |
